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       DAVE'S 
        DIARY - 27 OCTOBER 2004 - GARY ALLAN INTERVIEW 
      INTERVIEW 
        2001  
        GARY ALLAN - SURF RINGS IN THE DARK 
      
         
           
             
               
              Gary Allan  
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             When 
              surfing Californian cowboy Gary Allan was searching for songs for 
              third album Smoke Rings In The Dark he decided to host a 
              guitar pull with a bunch of Nashville songwriters. 
               
              Not just your average run of the mill Music Row songsmiths who toil 
              from 9-5 in publishing company cubicles, churning out radio tailored 
              tunes. 
               
              This was the big league - featuring heavy hitters Harlan Howard, 
              Guy Clark, Shawn Camp, Harley Allen and Byron Hill. 
               
              "That's one of the coolest moments I've had finding songs, 
              it was magic," Allan told Nu Country on the eve of his second 
              Australian tour that started at the Continental Cafe in inner Melbourne 
              suburb, Prahran, on August 22. 
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      "I'll 
        do that again. I found three songs that night - Sorry, Learning To 
        Live and Bourbon Borderline out of that. Shawn Camp had been 
        holding songs, including Sorry, because he hoped to get another recording 
        deal. He also wrote Greenfields. He had been played fiddle for Alan Jackson 
        for years." 
         
        It's a long breaker from the surf beaches of southern California where 
        Allan rode waves before school while growing up in Montebello near Huntington 
        Beach. 
         
        Although Allan first worked honky tonks at 13 he rejected his first Nashville 
        deal at 15 to finish his education. 
         
        It was at the age of 15, while at junior high school, that Allan wrote 
        his first tune Teenage Crush - one of many songs spawned by his 
        oft broken heart. 
       TEENAGE 
        CRUSH  
         
        "There was a girl I liked in school," Allan recalled, "she 
        went away to camp for seven days.  
         
        When she came back she liked someone else. I was writing songs, taking 
        just four or five hours, from raw emotion. Now they have to crafted. I 
        wish they were still that easy. I barely went to school when I was in 
        school. I played the bars at night, I was half asleep when I got to school. 
        I thought sleep was what you did when you got to school."  
         
        Ironically it was a post education job selling cars that landed him his 
        first record deal when a wealthy couple found the singer's demo tape in 
        their glove box.  
         
        "They came in to get their truck washed and asked who was on the 
        tape," Allan recalled, "they asked what it would take for me 
        to have a singing career. I said 'money, probably.' They said 'how much?' 
         
        I said '$10-12,000.' The husband said 'write him a cheque for $12,000.' 
        When they gave it to me I gave it back. I said 'I've never taken money 
        from my family in case I wanted to quit.' I didn't want to feel like I 
        owed anybody anything. She laughed at me and slid the cheque back across 
        the table and said '$12,000 ain't that much money to us - if it can change 
        your life you should take it.' Six weeks later I went to Nashville, got 
        a record deal and gave her back the $12,000. She now has a gold mine in 
        Alaska."  
         
        Allan bumped one of his own songs from debut disc, Used Heart For Sale, 
        to include Jim Lauderdale's Wake Up Screaming. 
         
        "Jim is one of the writers I like to listen to around the house," 
        says Allan, "every album needs those really different songs on them." 
       MURDER 
        IN TEXAS AND ON MUSIC ROW  
      
         
          History 
            repeated when Allan was finishing his second album Her Man 
            and discovered No Judgment Day - a tune penned by Allen Shamblin 
            who wrote a brace of hits with Mike Reid. 
             
            "I bounced one of own songs to get that on the album," Allan 
            revealed, "that song was so heavy. It was played during so many 
            crises in the U.S when they had inter-school shootings. I think it's 
            a song everyone can relate to. It was a song written off the front 
            page of the newspaper, a true story about a Texas town, Crosby. Three 
            kids beat a shopkeeper friend of Allen's dad to death with a baseball 
            bat." | 
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      The song 
        was included as a hidden acoustic track but airplay was so heavy it became 
        a single. 
         
        "At first they didn't want me to record it," Allan recalled, 
        "they said 'you shouldn't do it, it's too dark and then when it's 
        a success they said wasn't that a great idea of ours.?" 
         
        Allan is proud that his music owes more to the Bakersfield sound of Buck 
        Owens, Wynn Stewart and Merle Haggard than the formulaic Nashville chart 
        candy that is clogging charts. 
         
        "I've got a really cool song, a take on Murder On Music Row," 
        Allan revealed, "it's called None Of Them Out There Worth A Buck. 
        It has the line 'Buck Owens gets my dollar every time.' A friend of mine 
        gave it to me. I laughed a long, it just killed me." 
         
        Gary empathises with the sentiments of the Larry Shell-Larry Cordle satiric 
        Murder On Music Row - a parody of the de-countrifying of music force-fed 
        to the 2,800 plus U.S. country music stations. 
         
        Cordle and David Frizzell - brother of the late Lefty - released their 
        versions of the song before U.S. superstars George Strait and Alan Jackson 
        cut it with chart topper Lee Ann Womack on harmonies. 
         
        Although the duo kicked sand in the faces of Music Row moguls by playing 
        the song at the prestige Academy Of Country Music Awards, radio has not 
        changed its country pop penchant. 
         
        "I don't think they took much notice," Allan revealed in a call 
        before a gig in the north Texas dance hall circuit.  
         
        "It hasn't really impacted." 
         
        But the singer said the cyclical nature of the genre may again see a return 
        to roots country.  
       BAKERSFIELD 
        AND TV ROLES  
         
        "There's an upsurge of the Bakersfield sound out there right now," 
        he explains, "Eric Heatherley and Darryl Worley are some of the young 
        guys coming up doing some nice retro stuff. There's an upsurge of artists 
        now who are more retro because country has lost a lot of its soul. The 
        result is they see their audience declining. The songs have got to have 
        soul, have real meaning. That's what country music is, what happens during 
        the week. Rock n roll is about what happens at the weekend." 
         
        The singer played the lead role of Eddie Cochran in the TV mini-series 
        Shake, Rattle & Roll but is not keen to divert to acting. 
         
        Cochran died at 21 in a car crash on April 17, 1960, after a short but 
        fiery career that produced the smash hits Summertime Blues, Come On 
        Everybody and Something Else. 
         
        Ironically the singer, whose passenger and fellow rock star Gene Vincent 
        survived the crash, was touring to promote his new single Three Steps 
        To Heaven. 
         
        Like many peers Allan found the transition from singing to acting a time 
        consuming test of his patience and nerves. 
         
        "It was so tedious being there on the set from Sunday to Friday," 
        Allan recalled, "I was going nuts. I'd be a heroin addict if I had 
        to spend nine months in trailers. The series was screened over two nights." 
         
        That role landed Allan another part in another CBS TV series Pensacola 
        - Wings Of Gold. 
         
        The TV roles enabled Allan to make his music videos lavish productions 
        - the latest was shot last week on a deserted runway at Nashville International 
        Airport. 
         
        Allan and his band The Rhythm Wranglers performed in an aircraft hangar 
        and on the tarmac with a cast of 100 extras - mainly female models - doubling 
        as concert fans. 
         
        "It was an out of control crowd, clad in black leather in 95 degrees 
        heat," Allan revealed, "it was for my new single Right Where 
        I Need To Be.  
         
        As a performer Allan is meticulous about song choice - even it means replacing 
        his own compositions as he did on his first two albums.  
         
        The singer refuses to read the biographical blurb accompanying songs pitched 
        to him and is unfazed by the industry fanaticism for positive love songs. 
       POLITICALLY 
        INOCRRECT AND PROUD 
         
        "I don't believe country should be a politically correct format," 
        says Allan - a twice divorced father of three daughters. 
         
        "I believe country music in the early days had lots of soul and the 
        songs had a lot of heart. 
         
        There were songs about life. I make sure the songs I pick bring out some 
        sort of emotion in you, make you laugh, make you cry, make you angry, 
        something."  
         
        Allan was put to the test on the eve of recording Smoke Rings. 
         
        "Quite often an album is a reflection of what you are going through," 
        Allan revealed, "my marriage broke up. In the middle of record I 
        had a lot of personal stuff on side." 
         
        Allan split with second wife Danette Day, a Versace model, after only 
        seven months of marriage - the same length as fellow tattooed country 
        singer David Allan Coe's seventh marriage. 
         
        "Thanks for pointing that out," Allan quipped, "the price 
        was heavy but I think we got a good record out of it."  
         
        The title track cracked the Billboard Top 20 about the same time as Allan 
        debuted in Tamworth in January. 
         
        The new U.S. single, Loving You Against My Will, was Top 40 early 
        in June. 
         
        And the local single - a remake of the Del Shannon smash Runaway 
        - and revamp of Kevin Welch tune Crying For Nothing are also receiving 
        airplay here on community radio and the ABC. 
         
        But the song with most legs could be Don't Tell Momma I've Been Drinking 
        - co-written by Jerry Lasseter, former fiancee of Tanya Tucker. 
         
        "Man, that's classic American country," says Allan, "you 
        don't get any more country than that. It's so powerful, I had to record 
        that," 
         
        Allan is accompanied by long time band The Rhythm Wranglers featuring 
        guitarist Jake Kelly, Jody Maphis and pedal steel player Mike Fried who 
        has toured here twice with Wylie & The Wild West.  
         
        "Jody's dad, Joe, was a famous session player and writer whose hits 
        included Bright Lights, Thick Smoke And Loud, Loud Music," Allan 
        added. 
       
        CD REVIEW 2003  
       GARY 
        ALLAN SURFS AGAINST TIDE  
         
        "Well, there's no more smoky bars in California/ ain't no wild life 
        left in Tennessee/ but I keep on living every song I'm singing/ and they're 
        trying to put an end to guys like me/ all that's left in Bakersfield is 
        a juke box/ and it's haunted by old songs and memories." - Guys 
        Like Me - Kostas & Trent Summar.  
         
        Surfing Californian cowboy Gary Allan is not afraid of hanging five or 
        ten while fighting his war of the bar-room roses against Music City power 
        brokers. 
         
        And, with a brace of recent radio and video hits, he has clout as he flexes 
        his Tex-Mex in his torched treatment of the biographical tune Guys Like 
        Me. 
         
        "It's a lot more politically correct than it used to be," Allan, 
        35, revealed recently as his aptly titled fifth album See If I Care 
        (MCA-Universal) soared the charts. 
         
        "I think that we've lost a lot of edge. There used to be so much 
        more character in country music. Now, I keep hearing this demographic 
        called the soccer mom and I don't think any of my heroes gave a shit if 
        the soccer moms listened to their albums. I feel like when it's too politically 
        correct you lose the kids because kids want to see the edge in something. 
        There are ways to do that without going off the deep end. I feel like 
        kids want a part of something that is cool. When I was a kid I didn't 
        care what you listened to. 
         
        "There was a cool factor to country music cause you had Waylon and 
        Kristofferson, and you had Willie and Haggard. Those are real life people. 
        I think that we've lost a lot of that today." 
         
        Allan sneers at Music Row puppeteers and their pop country puppets. 
         
        "Now it's a guy that a great producer found and threw a hat on and 
        told him what to wear and say," says the Orange County lineman. 
         
        "You see a lot of that stuff. I feel like there are still a lot of 
        those really cool people, you have to dig to find them. They are usually 
        not in the Top 10 on the charts, but there are still some very cool people 
        out there. You just have to look below the surface." 
       
        JAMIE O'HARA  
      So was Allan 
        taking a risk when he took his album title from bluesy Jamie O'Hara song, 
        See If I Care? 
         
        O'Hara - who had hits with Kieran Kane in The O'Kanes - also wrote George 
        Jones album title track Cold Hard Truth.  
         
        It's an assertive love song about a departed lover but equally relevant 
        to Allan's career. 
         
        "I think that has been my attitude throughout my career," says 
        Allan, "that I'm going to do what I want, and if you guys want to 
        buy it or the label wants to back it, that's cool. But if not, I will 
        be doing my thing over here. I think it made for a longer road for us, 
        but I think it's going to make for a longer career." 
         
        The new album has rocketed the charts for the twice wed father of three 
        who has toured here twice.  
         
        It kicks off with Michael Henderson-Chris Stapleton penned honky tonker, 
        Drinkin' Dark Whiskey that segues into the ruptured romance of 
        Can't Do It Today. 
         
        Chart reality kicks in with Harley Allen-Don Sampson penned hit Tough 
        Little Boys - sibling song of sorts to the late Harry Chapin's oft 
        covered Cats In The Cradle. 
         
        "But when tough little boys grow up to be dads/ they turn into big 
        babies again." 
         
        Allan milks the melancholia of Don't Look Away and Pat McLaughlin-Liz 
        Rose tune Songs About Rain - a collage of radio rain requiems and 
        perfect link to the optimism of I Can Love You.  
         
        Allan is adept at extolling sensual bliss in Nothing On But The Radio 
        and redemption fuelled co-write with O'Hara and Odie Blackmon on You 
        Don't Know A Thing About Me. 
         
        Fitting finale is a duet with Willie Nelson on Jesse Winchester standard 
        A Showman's Life.  
         
        And Allan also has down home ideas if tapped on the shoulder for political 
        office. 
         
        "I think we're going to feed the homeless and lower taxes," 
        quips Allan, "they can smoke in bars and we'll legalise medical marijuana 
        usage. For medical reasons!" 
         
        CD REVIEW - 2001  
       
        GARY ALLAN DEVOURS DEVIL'S CANDY  
      "I once 
        lost an angel when a bad girl was handy/ I've always had a sweet tooth 
        for the devil's candy." Harley Allen-Carson Chamberlain. 
         
        When Californian cowboy Gary Allan played the Continental Café 
        he had frantic front row femmes eating out of his crutch. 
         
        Well, almost. 
         
        Allan, 33, and twice wed father of three, has a smoky, sensual appeal 
        that transcends sub genres of the most popular roots music form. 
         
        On a previous disc Allan released a hidden track - an acoustic murder 
        ballad - as a single. 
         
        Now, on his fourth album Alright Guy (MCA), the singer has updated 
        the Todd Snider penned title track with a Monica Lewinsky quip, deleted 
        from a lyric sheet on the inner sleeve. 
         
        "I'm just trying to see how far you can push the envelope," 
        says Allan whose music owes more to Bakersfield than Nashville. 
         
        "I've got them talked into putting out Alright Guy as the 
        last single in case it offends everybody and ruins the record." 
       BRUCE 
        ROBISON 
      Allan cut 
        the whimsical What Would Willie Do - one of many tunes by fellow 
        Aussie tourist Bruce Robison whose Angry All The Time is an huge 
        hit for Tim McGraw. 
         
        "Country music is about life and has soul," Allan adds, "I 
        think so much of it today is bubble gummy and light, To me that's boring." 
         
        That description doesn't fit Allan's single - Rivers Rutherford-George 
        Teren tune Man Of Me - or intro song Man To Man penned by 
        Jamie O'Hara. 
         
        Gary is not a prolific writer - he penned I Don't Look Back with 
        road guitarist Jake Kelly and Odie Blackmon. 
         
        He maintains he listens to demos without knowing the names of the writers 
        - that way he can pick without prejudice. 
         
        That's why he chose the haunting Devil's Candy - penned by Harley 
        Allen and Cason Chamberlain and the Jim Lauderdale-Leslie Satcher tune 
        What's On My Mind. 
         
        Allan showcases his two extremes - Roger Brown-Luke Reed penned haunting 
        ballad Adobe Walls and previously recorded Del Shannon penned Aussie 
        single Runaway. 
      DISCOGRAPHY 
           
      USED HEART 
        FOR SALE - 1996 
        IT WOULD BE YOU - 1998 
        SMOKE RINGS IN THE DARK - 2000 
        ALRIGHT GUY - 2001 
        SEE IF I CARE - 2003 
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